An interview with Kevin Drew and Andy Kim, two musicians from different eras in Canadian music, is more than a conversation about their working relationship and their new records. It’s more like group therapy with two men who love each other deeply. Andy Kim, 61, is a Canadian pop icon (Sugar Sugar, Rock Me Gently) old enough to be Kevin Drew’s father. Despite selling millions of records, he’s spent more than half his 45-year career in silence, considering himself “irrelevant.” His 2010 comeback album Happen Again was his first in more than 25 years. It did not, in fact, make it happen again. Drew, 37, is the bandleader of Broken Social Scene, the rock group whose expansive sound—and large lineup, which included Feist and members of Stars and Metric—put Toronto on the international music map.